The PEC may as well start opposing every gas station and McDonalds since they bring increased traffic and have an impact on area taxes (lower them :))

Posted by fuzzyturtle35 (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The PEC would have us all live in tents out in the woods if they had their way.

Posted by dingus5 (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Baseball? Yawn. The Nats can't draw any fans so Loudoun also needs some irrelevant team? And this team plays in a league no one has heard of. This is 2009, not 1909. Loudoun is now an international community. Build a soccer stadium and get DC United out here.

Posted by whlinder1 (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 7:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PEC does not like it in an already highly built up area, fine. Lets build it in Middleburg. Plenty of open spaces we can plow under. What dopes in the PEC. Though I am against it for other reasons if we have to have one Rt 7/28 is the perfect place. As a matter of fact I cant think of a better place except maybe Middleburg.

Posted by lewandow (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe they can do it right and tie in public transportation / bike trails so driving is not the only option. But they'll discuss it to death in committee ... and so it goes ...

Posted by ms1234 (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Atlantic League??? I'd rather watch any local high school baseball game.

Posted by mark.riggins (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PEC said more, which may go to the heart of dingus and ms1234's comments:

They also used the "premature" argumnet, as they think it would be better discussed as part of the discussion on the table whether or not to rezone all of the Route 28 corridor.

That is a minefield of an undertaking, where we can't drop the ball of making sure we don't get stuck as taxpayers for the tab of all the interchanges currently funded through the business tax district, as well as making sure the people who actually live in Sterling and Potomac getting heard on how much high density residential they "need" to absorb for the good of the larger environment.

It may stay in committee as long as necessary, ms1234, in order to see how many of us will end up in cubes over a highway or train, dingus.

lol

Posted by BarbaraMunsey (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is what LOCO is known for. If it has a chance of making money for the county then let's delay it. Jack Kent Cooke and Danny Boy both thought of building the Redskin Stadium here. The mall at Dulles Town Center was proposed when I moved to LOCO in 1971! Look how long that took. They can't even build a new HS in the western end so those poor little rich kids won't go to an overcrowded LVHS.

Posted by hangdog1 (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Board of Supervisors Chairman Scott K. York (I) said that he supported the project but that other supervisors were uneasy about the timing of the ballpark application and its financing."

Seeing that the entire Kincora project is privatetly financed without a penny from county residents, I am not sure what they are uneasy about.

My biggest concern was of course traffic on Route 7, but seeing this entire complex has no direct access to Route 7, it shouldn't affect the traffic much. I don't see a whole lot of negative to this, then again, knowing what the BOS has done in the past, I am sure they will come up with ways to screw things up.

Posted by Chuckled (anonymous) on June 10, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Waste of Time

Waste of Money

Atlantic league is college kids who cant even get into AAA.

Everybody wants something they dont have, but we all know this stadium be mostly empty after the first weeks.

These stadiums are HUGE eye sores too. Ugly ads in the outfield.

The office buildings will be empty around it, like the other new office buildings in Loudoun.

Posted by tallertapas311 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DC United would bring in FAR more revenue.

And they are actually on TV.

MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER, not college kids who cant grow up like the Atlantic league.

Posted by tallertapas311 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

An MLS stadium?? And you think we have a problem with illegals in this area now?? Sounds like you've never actually been to a United game.

Posted by mark.riggins (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Riggins,
You must live in Prince William County!!

I guess you havent been to minor league games. Dollar beer night=Drunks!! So we would have all those people on our highways.

I have been to an MLS game and they are pretty fun. And if you cant deal with latinos, the your gonna have real issues with living in America over the next century.

America and Loudoun are FREE!!!!

Posted by tallertapas311 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rt 7 and 28 is already a traffic NIGHTMARE! There is no way I would think they would consider this unless they are planning on expanding rt.7

Though I agree it would be great to have entertainment for Loudoun County residents, minor league baseball isn't the answer. I see the novelty being really great at first and then dying off VERY quickly. Let's face it, the NATS aren't that far for us to travel to and most of us dont even do that.

Good initial idea, just needs some more research!

Posted by sjoy2 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Minor League Baseball has succeeded in virtually every venue in the Washington/Baltimore area. The reason is simple; cheap entertainment. It will also work in Loudoun. Build it and they will come.

Posted by blackandred777 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody wants another baseball team in the area. Bring Formula 1 or some other kind of international sport to generate tourist revenue.

Posted by consulting_ho (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets tax them! a lot of money like we do the people who live here. Good Day, PH

Posted by Funnyguyva (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whlinder1, why would we want to bring the DC United out here? Their attendance is lower than Nationals, and they have one of the highest attendance levels in MLS. They are already at the top of the league, and still no one cares. The Nationals (and I am far from a Nationals fan) are at the bottom of the league and more people care about them than do about DC United. At least the Nationals have room to grow. Putting a small baseball stadium with a minor league team would draw crowds, but not so much as to cause complete mayhem during rush hour. Minor league games are inexpensive and extremely fun. You may have a point about the international community though. MLB is all white American players. Oh, wait.

Posted by madisonjacoby (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A soccer stadium would be used far more for local events then an eye sore baseball stadium. I think you might want to re-check those numbers for United games and Nats games.

The Beckham game and games against Euro clubs have definitly outdrawn the Nats. Soccer is bigger among kids nowadays then baseball anyway.

If you want cheap fun and baseball, there are plenty of softball and baseball games in high schools.

This is Loudoun being selfish and just wanting everything, but all you get is empty buildings and TRAFFIC!

Posted by tallertapas311 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And Atlantic baseball is as far away for the MLB as you can get.

Posted by tallertapas311 (anonymous) on June 11, 2009 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about a combo package... Build a soccer field and a baseball stadium - with a nice parking area in the middle. Toss in some nice park areas, bike paths leading into the Ashburn Area and the WO&D Trail too. Similar to how Baltimore made great use of the area for their NFL and MLB teams. While the powers that be are cutting away into the landscape make sure to cut additional lanes into both Rt.28 and 7. Not only to handle the traffic this type of sportsplex would add but also for FUTURE Growth - which is coming - want it or not. Anyone who has not taken Rt.28 south towards the Chantilly area recently would be shocked to know how much that area has exploded and how many huge business buildings are behind those trees that line Rt.28.
Since these developers have an interest in creating a sportsplex in the area let's get them to pay for a much needed few extra lanes... and what I mean by "a few extra" is at least 2 - 4 more than "they" say we need. If the study suggest 6 I want to see 8-10. It's called planning for the future, try it, you'll like it.

Posted by dohara1 (anonymous) on June 12, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Soocer in LC has 20 times more youth players. Baseball is over and LC needs to get this right.

Soccer rules, but the BOS will probably screw this up like everyting else.

Posted by scottpapex (anonymous) on June 13, 2009 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm in favor of the stadium: my folks in Ohio live near a small minor-league stadium and are happy to see a game without a long drive and longer walk from the parking lot to their seats. However, I'm totally against all the nonsense planned to surround it. This is the same hype we heard about hotels, apartments, entertainment, etc. for the old MCI headquarters in Ashburn, and look how well that panned out...

Posted by resnbl (anonymous) on June 13, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whatever the use of the stadium is, it doesn't belong in that area. Traffic is bad enough in the evening. Add another few thousand people heading to a stadium at 6 pm.

They need to build it along the proposed Metro line. Lets face it, no one is going to take Metro from Ashburn to DC. Its going to cost too much and take too long with no express train. Yet build the stadium along Metro and someone from Reston can take the train to Ashburn. Much more realistic and actually reduces traffic.

dohara is right as well. The traffic study these guys submitted is trying to argue against the Loudoun Planning staff's recommendations for road improvements. Some only project a Level of Service of C (D won't get approved..F is the worst). I wonder what the traffic projection at the Wegmans/Target shopping center's interection with Waxpool was? We can see how well that worked out.

Actually PLANNING for traffic is especially important here since this project is just a precursor for pushing the Kincora rezoning through. This stadium is just a small piece of what they want to put in there.

Even if you ignore the environmental implications of another large scale development in the Broad Run watershed, the traffic issues are still unresolved.

I say there needs to be a moratorium on rezoning until a new Comprehensive Plan is completed. With all the rezoning that has gone on since the last Comp Plan, the current one might as well be worthless. Loudoun Planning needs to reset and re-evaluate.

Posted by BurtReynolds (anonymous) on June 16, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)