Teacher Pay, Class Size Weighed in Budget Debate

Teacher Pay, Class Size Weighed in Budget Debate 

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If Loudoun County Public Schools freezes all staff salaries and increases class sizes by one student, the School Board will still fall far short of the $81.3 million it's been asked to trim from its spending request.

That was the message the School Board delivered to the Board of Supervisors last night during their latest budget work session.

"We're going to be faced with some serious choices to make," School Board Chairman Robert DuPree said. "I see no way ... to avoid a combination of increasing class sizes, eliminating cost of living adjustments for our employees, and programmatic reductions of what we currently offer."

The School Board included salary increases of about 3 percent in its FY09 plan. This pay hike added $30 million to the spending request. Meanwhile, increasing the size of every class at each grade level throughout the county by one student would translate into $7.3 million in savings.

Forgoing pay increases and adding an additional student to each class would translate into less than half of what supervisors have asked the School Board to cut.

"That's making your way toward $81.3 (million in savings), but it's a long ways from $81.3," Superintendent Edgar B. Hatrick III said.

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The School Board asked for an increase of $103.8 million, or 15 percent, in the district's operating budget. If it trims $81.3 million from its request --- as the supervisors have suggested -- schools would get an increase of $22.5 million over the current fiscal year.

Starting salaries for Loudoun County teachers range from $43,065 (for a starting teacher holding a bachelor's) to $48,289 (for those with a master's). Those wages are $850 and $1,000 less, respectively, than the Fairfax County pay scale.

The highest possible annual salary for a teacher is $96,887 a year.

While Supervisor Jim Burton (Blue Ridge District) acknowledged that salaries were raised to attract and retain teachers, he took exception to what he called "very, very generous" teacher salaries.

"You have over 1,700 teachers making more than $75,000 a year, which is more than half the people in the rest of the county made in their tax returns for 2005," he said. "You've got over 550 teachers making between $88,000 and $94,000 a year. That's nothing to sneeze at."

Burton's assertions fell cool upon School Board officials, who made it clear that, in their view, freezing salaries is not a desirable option.

"Your predecessors on the Board of Supervisors ... decided we were no longer going to be the training ground for Fairfax's best teachers," DuPree said. "We set out on a very purposeful process of equalizing salaries, reducing class sizes, trying to make everything about teaching in Loudoun be at least as attractive as teaching in Fairfax. The effects were immediate: When salaries changed, the outflow stopped. We now hire from Fairfax, and we hire some very good teachers from Fairfax."

J. Warren Geurin (Sterling District) warned that "the magnitude of the reduction that you're talking about" will cause significant problems. "There will be unintended consequences," he said.

Hatrick said one of the consequences students and teachers should brace for is an increase in "combination" classes, such as dual-grade or split classes. He said while combination classes can presently be found in smaller communities like Aldie or Middleburg, they will soon become a reality across the entire school system.

That's because when enrollment in a certain grade level increases, the school board presently allocates funds for principals to add a class to accommodate the influx. But instead of adding a new, separate class, Hatrick said budget cuts will force the board to deny principals the additional funds, and instead tell schools to accommodate the shift without any additional teachers.

The superintendent delivered this message as the school system is bracing to absorb 3,270 new students this fall. The increase would bring the student enrollment to 57,317, and would require 558 new positions be filled, ranging from teachers to bus drivers to custodians. Hatrick also noted that the student population is expected to continue to grow at a rate of about 6 percent each year for the next five years.

"With 85 percent of our budget being people we employ, there's no way to (significantly reduce costs) without seriously impacting their pay, in the number of employees, which means class sizes," DuPree said.

The average class size in Loudoun County is 24.5 students in core subject classes like math and English. Current mandates require core classes to have no more than 35 students.

Beyond the salary freeze and an increase in class sizes, it was not clear how the remaining $43.8 million in budget cuts would be achieved.

The superintendent's forecast was grim.

"I would have to recommend to the board that we begin dismantling some of the programs that we have, not just trimming them back," Hatrick said.

Many supervisors expressed regret over the current financial crunch.

"I'm not sitting up here preparing to justify reductions in your increase request (based) on the theory that you guys are bloated and you don't need it," Supervisor Stevens Miller (Dulles District) said. "I'm going to justify it on the theory that times are tough, and we just don't have as much as we'd like to put into our very good schools."

That sentiment was echoed by board chairman Scott York (At-Large).

"I've supported the schools year after year," he said. "I'm just very concerned this year about several folks who are literally hurting."

Burton was less sympathetic and assured the School Board that they will survive and continue to thrive, even if their funding is considerably less than what they had hoped for.

"The amount of money we spend on the school budget is not the sole determinate of a quality school system," he said. "Clearly, it's an important factor, but it should not be the only factor that we talk about and that we think about."

Like many supervisors, Burton said he has received a lot of feedback from his constituents concerning the School Board budget. He said many of the calls, letters and e-mails frustrate him after they shame him and his fellow supervisors for even thinking of not fulfilling the school board's request for funding.

"I get a little upset when people accuse us of sacrificing the children if we even think of reducing your request — not reducing the budget from last year, but reducing the size of your request — and that that's going to have a horrendous effect on the future of the children," he said. "It's rhetoric that doesn't help."

Superintendent Edgar B. Hatrick III and school officials discuss the ...

Melissa Arseniuk

Superintendent Edgar B. Hatrick III and school officials discuss the school district's budget during a work session earlier this month with the Board of Supervisors.

The Board of Supervisors has asked the School Board to trim its budget in order for the cash-strapped county to achieve a $1.10 tax rate next year. After last night's work session adjourned, however, Supervisor Kelly Burk (Leesburg District) motioned to adopt a higher tax rate of $1.15. While the late-night motion was originally seconded by Supervisor Andrea McGimsey (Potomac District) and immediately opposed by Supervisor Eugene Delgaudio (Sterling District) and Burton, it was withdrawn after the chairman requested dramatic debates be held next week, when the board will resume discussions on Tuesday.

Supervisor Lori Waters (Broad Run District) rounded out the post-School Board discussion by asking Benjamin Mays, the county's deputy finance officer, how much, if any, county proffers could be used to finance the School Board's request.

"In that school pot of $5 million, I think we can get some money out of that," he replied. "I think there is some ability to get some out of that ... We'll get as much as we can find."

County Administrator Kirby M. Bowers released a $1.2 billion county budget proposal on Feb. 11 that included $850 million for school board operations. While Bowers' proposal gave the School Board an $81 million increase over last year, it was significantly less than what school officials had been asking for.

The School Board expects about $30 million in funding from other sources next year. While local transfer funds represent 73.8 percent of all school funding, the remaining financial support comes from state funds (23 percent), federal funds (1.5 percent), local tuition, fees and other sources (1.7 percent).

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Bottom line is this: Times are tough, and the county needs to take a deep breath and make significant cuts to the school budget. When the economy comes back, then go ahead and increase funding. Till then, trim back -- just as any family would with its own budget.

Posted by glastonbury27 (anonymous) on March 20, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Burton you felt "shamed". Tell the parents of the kids who have to move from their home how much "shame" you feel for them. Shame over having to cut a school budget? WAKE UP, its going to get worst.

Posted by jteague (anonymous) on March 21, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe eliminating FLES (teaching Spanish in elementary school) would add up to a significant amount? I'd rather have my kids focusing on basics as opposed to a language they're getting by immersion in Sterling anyway.

Posted by kpschroe (anonymous) on March 21, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

While a good teacher is worth a lot, there are also teachers that are not so hot and work only the required minimum. There are no standards here thanks to a strong union. That said, teachers in LoCo work what 9 or 10 months a year? Show me alternative part time jobs that pay these levels. I bet there are not many.

Posted by rburns (anonymous) on March 21, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What strong union are you talking about? There are standards all over the place for teachers and administrators: SOL's, No Child Left Behind Act, etc. Teachers spend close to 70 hours a week on average lesson planning, introducing new technologies into the curriculum, grading papers, contacting parents, and working with various extra-curriucular activities. The teaching calendar goes from the middle of August until the end of June. The summer month is spent taking classes and earning recertification; yet another standard put in place. If Loudoun goes back to the days of salary freezes it will have a number of "not so hot" teachers.
How in the world does the school board budget have anything to do with children losing their homes? WAKE UP, it doesn't. If the board does not approve the budget as asked for they do run the risk of it getting, worst. You must have had one of rburns "not so hot" English teachers.
The fact that America's wealthiest county; from this newspaper Aug of 2006; cannot fully fund their school board budget is an embarassment. Approve the tax plan at $1.25 and secure the best school system in Virginia for years to come. The alternative is to lose all the ground Loudoun has gained over a few dollars per household.

Posted by stingo (anonymous) on March 21, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everybody keeps talking about low pay of teachers. How many have left Loudoun County School? Not many. They are having it too good. 1700 teachers earning above $75000. Add 20% for all the benefits and pension they will get. How many private sector employees will get 6% (3% cost of living + 3% step increase) raise this year?

Freeze teachers salary. They have it too good.

Posted by faltuk (anonymous) on March 24, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The MOST a teacher can make with a Masters degree is $88,000. Is the most you can make at your job $88,000? Teacher's annual "steps" give them a $600 raise each year. Do you get raises of more than $600 at your job? I would imagine most people do. Are there many jobs in the country more important than a teacher's job?

Posted by hwitt99 (anonymous) on March 24, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In the debate over funding I want to support our teachers. Teachers are contracted 200 days per year which equals more than nine months. Few work just the regular hours since the majority coach, mentor or sponsor other actitivies, often without compensation. They are required to take courses to maintain their certification, the majority of which is done during the summer and without reimbursement. Also, teachers do not have a union. State employs may not unionize and there is no binding arbitration. I would much rather support our teachers and have our children learning than pay child-care costs for having them babysat which based on the average classroom size of 22 students would give each teacher 932 dollars per day or $172,420 annually based on $6.00 per child per hour. I'm sure the teachers would love to give up lesson plans, paper grading and instruction for the higher salary. We in Loudoun are really getting a bargain and our children are getting an excellent education.

Posted by mariusjulius (anonymous) on March 25, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't misinform. The step increase is 3%. Check out the link
http://cmsweb1.loudoun.k12.va.us/5097251...

I am all for teachers, but these are tough times. I don't see why every teacher should get 6% raise this year.

Anyway, what is the evaluation process for teachers? Has any teacher ever been denied a step increase?

Posted by faltuk (anonymous) on March 25, 2008 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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