Tammi Marcoullier at 3:00 p.m., October 29, 2007 (64 comments)
Stevens Miller, the challenger for the Dulles District Board of Supervisors seat, is getting financial support from famous author John Grisham, who has donated $1,000.00 to his campaign. And no, Grisham does not live in the Dulles area or even in Loudoun. He has a home and office in Charlottesville, but apparently is quite opinionated about building and development in Northern Virginia.

Miller said his wife, Elizabeth, "always has her nose in a book" and after reading Grisham's novel "The King of Torts" said they should talk to Grisham about the campaign. Miller explained that in the book, Grisham writes about a character "Bennet the Bulldozer" who is known for "relentless slash and burn development in the Northern Virginia suburbs. Chapter five has quite a bit of specific detail."
As you can guess, Miller is referring to his opponent, incumbent Steve Snow, and the ongoing arguments about influence and votes for development throughout the Eastern part of the county and the transition area.
Though it was a long-shot to get in touch with Grisham, Miller got a kick of such a generous response to his campaign plea. "I wrote to him and said, 'If I can reach enough people, I might be able to stop what some of the local "Bennets" are doing,'" said Miller.
He sent me a $1,000 check with a personal note that says 'Best of luck with the campaign;'" said Miller. "Turns out that Grisham was an elected member of a state legislature before he became a writer," he explained. "He knows something about what a $1,000 donation means in a local race."
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In related news, Stevens Miller has also been endorsed by Rogers Hornsby and Johns Hopkins.
Posted by fyad (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Congratulations Mr. Miller. I'd say this trumps Mr. Delgaudio's Pat Boone endorsement. Heck ole Boone didn't even give Delgaudio money he just had his picture taken with him. (fyad, 4:32 that is very funnys, thanks for the chuckle)
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just goes to show it never hurts to ask. This one goes for the little guy. I'm wishing for the best in this campaign too. Vote Miller!
Posted by filmjoy (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I met him the other day (Miller, not Grisham). Seems like a nice enough guy with a good head on his shoulders. He also appears to have some integrity, too...
Posted by qazwsxedcrfv (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Snow campaign had kinda dismissed him early in the campaign as not having much fire. Bet they changed their outlook after Miller took Snow's head off at the Easterner's debate. That was funny, and I bet it was totally unexpected by Snow, because his folks have been stuffing a certain orifice with sunshine from way back.
Posted by honchonumberone (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What a great story! Congratulations to candidate Miller. I've always been a fan of Grisham, and esp. glad to know he's on the right side in this race!
Posted by truthseeker5 (anonymous) on October 29, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The support I've had and the many new friends I've made have become two of the best reasons why I'm so glad to have entered this race.
I wish it could go all the way to the end with nothing but fun news like this article about John Grisham's interest, but that is not to be, it seems. Today, Mr. Snow put out two mailings with false statements about me (one of which illegally uses a copyrighted picture without permission). Please have a look at my Web site, http://www.miller4dulles.com, to get the truth.
All of you on our side are making this victory possible. I can't now, and never will be able to, thank you enough. But I'll spend the next four years trying.
Stevens Miller
Posted by steve (anonymous) on October 30, 2007 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is not surprising--Grisham was the annual speaker at the Piedmont Environmental Council meeting a few years back. Wonderful speech that used to be available easily online before the PEC dumped their old website.
The speech was about how success as an author brought the great unwashed near his home, and therefore sprawl (the people who buy his books?) is very bad and must be stopped. How sad that the people who have made him a household name are so ugly to him (but not their money?).
I believe he was a participant in their "conservation buyer" program, which is also how they got Ron Maxwell. Famous people buy estates, and give back by becoming public spokespeople and donors.
As much as I enjoy his novels, I haven't bought a Grisham product since his annual meeting speech. As part of the great ugliness that Grisham's chosen lobbying firm (pardon me, environmental group) needs local politicians to protect him from, I don't wish to burden him with my ugly money either. hee hee
Mr. Miller, if, as your recent letter says, you are really a Republican, why have you always worked with Democrats in Dulles? I don't understand why you would repudiate your own party the week before the election. It makes no sense.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 1, 2007 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara -. If you like his books you should buy them. Letting the fact that he spoke at a PEC event (I am no a big fan of PEC either) stop you from reading books you like, just shows a level of extreme paranoia and blind partisanship.
Elected/Appointed official such as the Dulles Planning Commissioner and Supervisors should recognize opposing view points with out immediately attacking the credibility of the subject matter. Snow’s inability to come to the table and talk with constituents that do not share his same opinion might just be the reason Moderate Republicans are turning to Miller. I personally know several Republicans who have taken a closer look at Miller and like what they see. In addition Miller’s ideas are a refreshing change. Miller wants to have residents involved with creating Good Government.
Nov 6th will be a day of reckoning and will bring an end to the corruption plaguing our current BoS.
Posted by Ehodell (anonymous) on November 1, 2007 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
6 days till better days!!!
Posted by honchonumberone (anonymous) on November 1, 2007 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Erika, some people buy salad dressing based on global warming, or eat guilt-free chocolate that "sustains" the "rainforest" (jungle). I prefer to not contribute to the bank account of someone who apparently thinks the world is a much prettier place without having to look at his customers, no matter how enjoyable his stories are.
I repeat: this is a very confusing new non-message.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 1, 2007 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Keep blogging & speaking in public Barbara. My estimate is 3 new Miller voters for every word you utter, past, present and future.
Posted by tconway (anonymous) on November 1, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Conway, I find it interesting that out of county money is VERY VERY BAD, unless it is from a famous author (who thinks the houses the vast majority of Loudoun voters live in stink) who doesn't live here, in which case it is not only newsworthy, but significant.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Personally, I think it is interesting but not very significant. $1,000 from an out of state author pales in comparison to the Fairfax developer dollars that Snow has received. It is also telling that Miller did not try to claim that the author's real livelihood is say raising llamas like the $5,000 Van Metre athletic club entry by Snow.
Posted by Eric101 (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, you are quite funny with the Van Metre health club contribution. It is now a llama farm? Okay.
Actually, it is a real health club (unlike your postings elsewhere that it is somehow fake--?). It is also wholly owned by Van Metre.
Business people often own more than one business. Don't you?
You are a hydrogeological consultant, a nonprofit, a beekeeper, an entrpreneur in truffle futures, and I'm sure lots more.
Does this make your out of district electioneering more or less credible?
I would say it is irrelevant.
As to an entire blog entry that a famous author gave a Loudoun candidate a check, the Post determined the significance of that. However, review past Loudoun Democratic and PEC-related donations. Lots of famous and wealthy people who don't live here have donated for years.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, you are quite funny with the Van Metre health club contribution. It is now a llama farm?
It s a metaphoric comparison. Had Stevens list Grisham as SAY a llama farmer, it would have been comparable to Snow's slight of hand with Van Metre's $5K donation via MVHRC. Sorry you didn't understand the post.
To answer your question, had Warren Guerin listed my primary income as agriculture he would be just as intellictually dishonest Snow.
So you know about my bees. You sure do get around out here don't you? That coffee offer still stands next time you come out for a drive. BTW, I have a couple more talents up my sleeve - see if you can figure them out. I love the free advertising.
Posted by Eric101 (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, I don't know if your posts are meant to be understood.
I realize ag is not your primary income. It figures strongly in your assessments though.
(I forgot about participating in the extension office study on marketing cut flowers. The extension provided the plants and support, and sought in return information on how well they marketed. Good tax funded program on tax deferred land, with study parcels ranging from a half acre to hundreds.)
I may take you up on that coffee someday! Thanks.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey, head cheerleader?
Why don't you address the dishonesty associated with a doctored picture, and another copyrighted one? Would an upright, conservative christian stoop to that level to win an election? Or would he allow his people to do such things to win?
Posted by honchonumberone (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"plants and support"
Got plants - wish I got support - mainly callouses. But nope I wasn't talking about those flower either - keep digging (so to speak).
I believe that my posts are being well understood as are yours. I guess we shall see next Tuesday, eh?
Posted by Eric101 (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
honcho, if you're talking to me, I can only tell you what I heard about the event, which you can discount as hearsay, because that's all it is.
It occurred at a Brambleton event, at which both candidates had booths. Although some posters here and at tc described it as silly snowcones when it was much too cold for children to be eating them (and other far more colorful descriptions), I heard that Mr. Miller's child was one of the many heartily enjoying a cone.
In addition, I heard that a Snow supporter received a lot of questions about their two-cylinder Citroen that they had covered with Snow stickers and magnets.
The Snow booth asked the event staff if it was permissible to pull the car up next to the booth, and were told that if it didn't block access to anything, it should be fine. So they did.
I heard that the Miller booth lodged complaints, and asked that the car be removed. The person who told me this speculated (remember, this is all hearsay to me) that the number of people who gathered at the unusual car may have been distressing to the opposition.
I heard that the Miller booth then decided to get its own attention-grabbing car, and called the Lamborghini dealership which had contributed to their campaign, who obliged by bringing said car over and parking it at the booth.
Beyond that, if, as some say, that Mr. Miller is far too environmentally sensitive to operate such an extravagant vehicle, I do think that, even if this account is in fact hearsay, that the two-cylinder Snowmobile deserves some research as part of the larger story.
In addition, I have some questions about the mailer I got yesterday from Mr. Siker's PAC:
a) with so much talk about propriety on both sides of the aisle, what would tc and the tc spinoff have had to say if Mr. Snow's questions to the County Attorney on the Openband contract had resulted in the office saying that yes, they COULD intervene in a private contract, instead of no, they could not?
b) I thought the contract, if all options were exercised, totaled a potential 65 years, instead of the 75 referenced in the incomplete sentence of the second bullet point?
c) The October 15 filings by Mr. Siker's group showed ~$1200 from the Loudoun Coalition, and $800 from Mr. Siker.
How does a PAC donate to itself without detailing the donations? Did about a dozen people each donate through the website in less than $100 increments? How is that detailed?
I haven't seen the most recent filing yet, but that mailer was more costly than the money disclosed so far.
Given that tc is righteously ranting about donations that will only come to light in the final filing after the election (a standard Loudoun old boy art), will the people who buy the Who tagline that "we won't be fooled again" find that that's exactly what did happen when the final disclosures come out?
It won't matter to the posse though, will it?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry about your calluses Eric, I just read the extension office report. I really don't dig on you as often as you seem to think. But then, you are way out there on a lot of things so it isn't like its hard to hear about you.
How did the energy-from-horse-manure venture go? Ever get off the ground, so to speak?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another 3000 votes for Miller, thanks Barbara. Keep up the good work. If you need another battery for your laptop, please let me know :)
Posted by tconway (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Funny, Barb, a guy at work today said that about 10% of my ideas are winners but as you say I tend to be "out there" and the ones that DO win are original at least. I've learned to be more studious of my ideas before pulling the trigger. (Cut flowers weren't my idea Andy Hankin approached me.)
The "manure to energy" via anaerobic digestion is actually done quite a bit in Europe. It entails the use of a methane IC gen set and I put together a business plan on a 3 MegaWatt plant. It green lights at about $0.05 - 0.07/kWh. Maybe someday - I would love to see THAT special exception procedure, eh?
Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, good for you to have lots of ideas. Seriously. I don't agree with most of the political ones, but that's okay.
10%? Well, if this is an "all ideas" evaluation (including politics), I can probably agree.
I can be patient on the SPEX for horse manure power plants. Maybe after the Comp Plan is fleshed out through massive new government programs to realize the rural economy envisioned there, we can get all of our electricity from manure.
What I'D like to envision are the people who would protest the by-right uses next to them, of a manure-driven energy source!
honcho, I found out a little more hearsay, and it is pretty funny: The "doctored" picture? Apparently it took quite a while for the dealership to set up the car, and lots of picture were taken THROUGHOUT the process of doing so.
Your righteous wrath doesn't take into account that the picture shown was taken before any signage was set up. No doctoring. Just time.
The other picture was off of the internet. Pretty public, and no copyright in evidence.
Sorry, honcho, but coming from one of the tc crowd and the spinoff PAC (that just sent another expensive mailer full of venom and mistakes) with their photoshopping and such, I have a hard time getting worked up about your "unchristian" photo feelings.
Do you guys have any issues yet?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Barb,
Dittos on the agreement of about 10% of politcal ideas with you. Actually it is more of a POLICY disagreement rather than political. Which kind of folds with your "issues" question. The primary issue has been presented many times. The land use planning philosophy of you and Snow only benefits the land developer and associated industry. Massive rezonings are a detriment to the citizens of Loudoun. The related issue of the overwhelming out-of-county developer donations to Snow's campaign and the undue influence this buys them in land use plans of our County should Snow be elected has also been presented and is a mainline issue. Frankly all other "issues" we posse member raise are secondary but clearly go to the character of the candidate (or lack thereof).
Why did Snow road SPAM Route 7 this morning, btw? Has he no respect for the public property? Again this goes to lack of character? I will be cleaning up his mess at the Hamilton exit (why he SPAMMED there is beyond me). I hope he paided dearly for these signs because they are going in the trash.
Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, to my knowledge no Snow signs were placed by the Snow team out of district. Could this be where the over 1000 stolen signs that were legally placed went? Nothing would surprise me at this point. A few larger property owners with road frontage over here have taken to NAILING their Snow signs to their fences in order to keep them from being heisted on a regular basis.
Why on earth would Steve campaign in Blue Ridge?
Speaking of which, since you have had much to say on why Blue Ridge and Catoctin deserve a large say in who gets elected in the suburbs, why would you complain about suburban candidate info in the west? I mean, since there is no double standard and all...
Is the theory that since York and Miller signs are twinned all over the Fairfax side of the Dulles border (blending in well with the hundreds of blue Fairfax signs--good thinking on someone's part for sure), that people somehow commuting WEST for work will see the Snow signs in Hamilton? Really.
Truly Eric, if the posse spent more time on issues and less on driving around photographing (and removing in order to replace where no one can vote for the object of the exercise?) signs, it may have made for a better debate.
As for "massive" rezonings, wouldn't it be nice if the suburban area could plan what's left of it to include what was allowed to lapse during the years of "smart" growth attrition? By right entropy on what's left won't attract the businesses people think will magically arrive by wand-wave.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric, I made a few calls to check it out, since you are rightly concerned about this pollution in your district: seems last night was a very busy night for some people.
Tulloch signs turned up in Lansdowne and Dulles South, along with the Snow signs in Hamilton. Reports still coming in, apparently. No campaign workers did this, they appeared/migrated all on their own.
So, is this the posse's latest brilliant black op?
Seriously, if you guys have no issue or method other than voter suppression, that's flat out pitiful.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barb,
If Snow wants to campaign in the west for his favorite candidate, I say by all means. The road spam is just really wrong, though.
And come on, you want me to believe that the posse posted Firetti and Alhemann signs (which predominated) in the Route 7 median as some kind of twisted ruse to drive votes away from your guys. No - somebody who really like Firetti, Ahlemann, and Snow put these signs up (and put quite a bit of work into it I must say). Maybe it was [redacted] as she lives in Hamilton and is clearly not above such things - who knows??
Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Why did Snow road SPAM Route 7 this morning, btw? Has he no respect for the public property? Again this goes to lack of character? I will be cleaning up his mess at the Hamilton exit (why he SPAMMED there is beyond me). I hope he paided dearly for these signs because they are going in the trash. Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 10:12 a.m."
That was your original post Eric. Not this:
"No - somebody who really like Firetti, Ahlemann, and Snow put these signs up (and put quite a bit of work into it I must say). Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 2:30 p.m."
I repeat, if all you guys have for an issue is voter suppression, that is pitiful.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara, what in the world are you talking about with voter suppression? You are absolutely out of your mind. Snow and Firetti have been the worst offenders in terms of road spam. I urge all citizens to help clean it up. Herring and Poisson have now jumped on the road spam bandwagon and their signs deserve to be cleaned up as well.
Posted by jeffwolinski (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ahhhhh!!! So it was the Patrick Henry kids - you know the ones Snow PAYS. Well that explains a lot. You would think he would tell them not to put his signs in Catoctin District wouldn't you? So ultimately we can thank Snow for the road spam but he drags Firetti and Ahlemann down with him.
Voter suppression - that's a good one, Barb:o)
Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Signs. Diversionary crumbs from the real issues...
I think it is Dean who keeps saying, Lather, Rinse, Repeat...
Posted by MANN12 (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric and Jeff, I understand that no one in Catoctin and Blue Ridge can vote for or against Snow.
But that isn't the audience that is being aimed for with the yelling you guys have been doing about the signs.
I see that it is now PHC students who are the likely culprits in the tc playbook.
Sorry, but this still looks like the usual formula from your bunch: move things around or start a fire, point and scream, then point elsewhere once someone points back.
IOW, negative BS for no other purpose than to be negative, confusing or suppressive.
Still pitiful.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just a comment to those of you arguing with Barbara Munsey. I know that Barbara may at times come across as being brusque, unfeeling, condescending, patronizing, superior, denigrating, belittling, and at times even demeaning. Cut her some slack. Have any of you wondered what it must be like and how difficult it must be to possess Barbara's intellectual chops? Have you ever contemplated how very difficult it is to be right - ALL OF THE TIME? It must be a burden more terrible than anything anyone here can imagine. When it comes to arguing with her, good luck. Her ability to deflect or steer an argument to some trivial point, that has very little to do with the actual primary argument, is becoming the stuff of legend. There are days I'm convinced that if she were to argue with Jesus Christ, Jesus would lose. So before you engage Barbara in the future, just remember that she bears a cerebral burden that none of us can fully appreciate let alone understand.
Posted by Brain.Roarity (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, lot goin on here, I just got back in. I've been out in Harpers Ferry putting up about 1,000 Snow signs. I gotta say there's a lot of nice folks out there. But man, that's a lot of work. Anyway, I've read the previous dozen or so posts, and I gotta tell ya, I am concerned, very concerned. Why is Barbara interested in the use of manure for energy? I hope to God she's not thinking of implementing something like that to power her laptop. Oh, to be clear, I am not talking about cow manure, you see, there are no cows in Loudoun.
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara, you referenced being able to donate to www.lc2007.org with an on-line capability. Can you tell me where you found that? I'd like to donate some of the money to their film department. Frankly, I gotta say I don't think they are sophisticated enough to do on-line commerce. But I could be wrong, and you are right ALL OF THE TIME. Damn, I am also confused about that circuitous $1200 you mention. How the heck does that happen? Please enlighten us oh omnipotent one.
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 3, 2007 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn, the website had (may still have, don't know) a "donate" page (seemingly like all the web-based groups active in "saving" Loudoun--"just click here to give us money!").
The first filing (October 15) by the tc spinoff PAC listed only two donations to the Loudoun Coalition: one from the Loudoun Coalition, and one from the Loudoun Coalition's registrant (and sole human face to date).
My questions are:
Does the tc PAC get away with not detailing the $1200 by allowing us to assume that it is the total accumulated through the donation page?
Is that total, whether it is through the donation page or not, made up of less-than-$100 donations?
If so, is that why the total is not broken out?
I am imagining that this is another paper chase by tc, where one must go to another source to get the breakdown on the web-based donations that seem to currently be listed as a bulk donation from the Coalition to itself.
I haven't yet seen the most recent filings from Richmond, so I don't know what has come in to pay for the daily hitpieces.
I remain of the opinion that the Who line on the site (we won't be fooled again?) is humorous, given the current amount of energy being spent by tc to claim that certain candidates (probably the ONLY time they talk about the races in their own districts any more) will have showings of "evil developer" money that won't be disclosed until after the election.
Pretty funny coming from the little group that only discloses donations from itself, and not listed as anything but itself, and THEN sends out a few thousand in mailers.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 4, 2007 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn, sorry, no laptop.
As for energy from horse manure, see the following from Eric:
"The "manure to energy" via anaerobic digestion is actually done quite a bit in Europe. It entails the use of a methane IC gen set and I put together a business plan on a 3 MegaWatt plant. It green lights at about $0.05 - 0.07/kWh. Maybe someday - I would love to see THAT special exception procedure, eh?
Posted by edeaver (anonymous) on November 2, 2007 at 9:55 p.m."
He's apparently been working on it for years. Why don't you boys discuss it sometime?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 4, 2007 at 7:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara,
I agree, thousand of mailers and no disclosures. It's amazing. No on-line donation capability. It's amazing. Donations to themselves. It's amazing. Their impact. It's unimaginable. Please send one of your crack investigators down to Richmond to investigate. Damn, I know you try hard and in your constant effort to reveal what you know to be true, I think you screwed up this one. From what I've heard the filings were supposed to be electronic. That would have been great, then we'd know immediately the questions you pose and the answers we are all interested in. Unfortunately, your zeal for dialog lead the group to post via the tortoise speed, U.S. Mail and that caused this agonizing delay. Damn, they sure aren't the most sophisticated bunch but they know when to take advantage of free consulting.
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 4, 2007 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn, it was on VPAP that way when I first noticed the group. I doubt I had anything to do with the decision.
I also doubt it is a matter of sophistication so much as a natural outgrowth of tc--anonymity in attack.
So, any issues yet, other than confusion, anger, and voter suppression?
As the boys sometimes say: "chirp...chirp..."
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 4, 2007 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara - your comment concerning Miller and the Lamborghini is an out right LIE and should be closely examined for fraud.
The Event mgr of the Fall Fest told Washington Lamborghini to park the car on the opposite side of the street near the Miller tent. This was after Stephanie Smith parked her cute VW bug (like car) w/o the permission.
It is repugnant that you would publish such a lie concerning Miller's affiliation w/ the car owner. As a by-product of Steve Snow’s out right LIE, ironically the dealership (not a friend) contacted Stevens Miller after Snow’s mailer went out to express their own outrage – all of this transpired due to Snow’s misrepresentation to the Dulles district voters.
Here is a stone cold fact – Mr. Snow published a FAKE & Doctored photo of the Lamborghini in his recent mailer.
I for one attended the event and saw first hand the DEALERSHIP signage “Washington Maserati/Lamborghini” placed in the front windshield, but in Snow’s mailer this key element was doctored.
Posted by Ehodell (anonymous) on November 4, 2007 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Erika, I have only recounted what I was told. (see post to honcho acknowledging "hearsay").
The car parked near the Snow booth was not a VW, and was only parked there after requesting permission, which was granted.
Lamborghini was a listed donor on the financial disclosure reports filed before the event ever took place.
I was told many pictures were taken through out the process of setting up the car. The one circulated was taken before signage was placed.
"Fraud" has a specific definition.
Have you an election issue you wish to discuss, or is it just about litereature?
If so, why did Mr. Miller send out a letter claiming to really be a Republican the week before the election, why did tc follow it up with claims that York and Miller are not running together, and why that very same day did I receive a mailer authorized by both Miller and York, picturing them side by side?
Do you have any district issues relating to policy or infrastructure that you wish to discuss?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara, one major issue. Integrity! Snow doesn't have it. He continues to play chicken with his campaign tactics, which by the way is a total dodge on dealing with his four year record. As one of his soldiers you play the game nicely.
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn, lack of integrity is a funny charge from a guy with as many names as you use to campaign with.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You prove my point Common Reason and others.
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara,
They want to make it all about residential density, when anyone who is trying to sell a home knows that the market is not treating residential density kindly these days. Residential density is a huge red herring,,,I have heard very alarming stories about foreclosures in the county, particularly Ashburn, and although we keep hearing the bottom is near, it looks like we are going to go much lower..with the ghost towns of MCI and AOL--
The critical issues in the next few years are going to be the budget, how to pay for things with plunging assessments, and how to get any roads built...
We need some people willing to fight, not with their colleagues, but for our citizenry for things we need now! and how to pay for these things--or are we just going to tax ourselves to death?
These are the issues, in my mind, and I think we are approaching a real fiscal crisis...
Posted by MANN12 (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Common Reason? Is this back to the Shadow?
I thought last week the Shadow was now Sally Mann.
I don't post at tc Glenn. I just read it.
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No,no....no. Common Reason is Ms. Smith.
Shady is actually Roherty, and RWN is actually the Sterling .... oh, never mind.
I know LI, and you're all way off. As a matter of fact, some of you confide in LI weekly. THAT's the funniest part.
Posted by honchonumberone (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barbara, you didn't take the bait. You are a wiley one. I was hoping you would correct my error of stating Common Reason and reveal Choose Reason. You know, but go ahead and deny if it makes you feel better. A professional blogger like you, there is no way you could resist the temptations of entering the most controversial and lively blog in Loudoun County. It's just not in you to ignore such a venue. You're not being honest if you say you only read TC and not be tempted to hit that ole reply button. If you're not it's because you've been told not to. Man after this election can you imagine what, "Barbara unleashed" is going to be like. Look out Loudoun. LOL
Posted by maravetz (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 11:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn, I haven't been told not to. I know not to.
Just like I know to keep my commission account separate from my personal one, and copy the clerk so that everything is always FOIA-ready.
Did you know that if I were to e-mail more than one other commissioner at a time with a discussion of business issues (two, as opposed to the entire body with a copy to the clerk) it could be construed as an illegal meeting?
This is the real story in the FOIA flap that is still ongoing, and will be quite a deal of its own as the interconnected trials continue after the election: Mr. Burton fought answering, Mr. York and Mr. Burton appealed being forced to answer, and Mrs. Waters has redacted great portions of what she did submit.
Mr. Wolinski has had much to say about it, but the fact is that if county business is discussed in a personal account, it can be FOIAed, and most of all in Mrs. Waters' case, if she mixed campaign and personal business in discussion of county business, it is still a public document subject to FOIA.
I can definitely resist posting at tc. What I think will be funny at Ben Dover's (Paul Siker's? Who knows?) post election bash is when 12 people show up to fill the three dozen RSVPs.
I know you are three of them yourself, right?
Posted by barbara_munsey (anonymous) on November 5, 2007 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glenn,
I don't post at TC either, after what they did to me. First, they deleted many of my substantive comments. Then they held my comments in moderation, and manipulated other comments timed to be posted so that my comment was either diffused, or looked out of place, or was many posts ahead of nonsense posts that no real person would be interested in reading. Then they allowed people to bash me in the most insulting ways, comparing me to a stripper, and a whore, and they put up clip art of me to humiliate me and embarass me from posting there.
Brian Roherty does not post there either, I have spoken to him about it. He has not even had time to read it. TC tried to lure people in there by bashing or mentioning names, but it did not work--it is only your little band and some democrats posting there now.
Posted by MANN12 (anonymous) on November 6, 2007 at 6:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You said "redacted"...
I'll assure everyone that the BDBBBB room was at capacity last night. We couldn't fit more people if we tried. Speaking for only myself, I was pulled over before I got home.
The guy actually looked pretty disappointed when I blew a .007 (not to be misconstrued with the much worse .07, which is at the legal limit)
Stormin' Beaches was the topic of the evening, and I left assured that the next battle has a healthy supply of vounteers who are all battle-tested after the last one.
Posted by honchonumberone (anonymous) on November 10, 2007 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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